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Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 07:21
por Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 07:22
por Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 07:23
por Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 07:24
por Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 07:26
por Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 27 Jun 2011 19:24
por rubiera
I only have one or two of these....it must be a single position in the last plate.
Nice dots....now I need to look for them.
tony
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 23 Oct 2011 21:20
por stamps9407
Rein
What about the following stamps
pyri200_v01b_1200_r1c1.jpg
Most of my stamps for this serie looks like this one
Below another I have doubts because of its watermark seen in the traditional way
pyri200_v01b_1200_r2c2_foro.jpg
ZA2 is symmetrical paper with orthogonal watermark (m)
Thanks
Sergio
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 23 Oct 2011 21:51
por stamps9407
Question about RR1 and RR2
RR1 symmetrical orthogonal watermark
RR2 asymmetrical orthogonal watermark
Is that correct?
Thanks
Sergio
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 24 Oct 2011 09:14
por Rein
stamps9407 escribió:Question about RR1 and RR2
RR1 symmetrical orthogonal watermark
RR2 asymmetrical orthogonal watermark
Is that correct?
Thanks
Sergio
Sergio,
that is correct! In fact the watermark has been produced most likely in Italy [Pietro Miliano] with the same dandy-roll but with the long wire of the paper machine changed from the traditional symmetrical wire [line binding] to the newly invented (about 1938!) asymmetrical wire [twill binding]. It is the twill binding that is probably stronger but it may also get pulled askew [left and right side of the wire pulled differently] resulting in the weft no longer being perpendicular to the warp!
Weaving is done by intersecting the longitudinal threads, the warp, i.e. "that which is thrown across", with the transverse threads, the weft, i.e. "that which is woven".
This is to be seen as what is called in Argentina: rayado!!!
to be continued ....
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 25 Oct 2011 22:33
por stamps9407
Rein
Thanks, great explanation. What do you think about the stamps, are they ZA2?
Regards
Sergio
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 26 Oct 2011 04:18
por Rein
stamps9407 escribió:Rein
What about the following stamps
pyri200_v01b_1200_r1c1.jpg
Most of my stamps for this serie looks like this one
Below another I have doubts because of its watermark seen in the traditional way
pyri200_v01b_1200_r2c2_foro.jpg
ZA2 is symmetrical paper with orthogonal watermark (m)
Thanks
Sergio
Sergio,
Yes, symmetrical Zárate paper! But you should be able to find the asymmetrical version as well!
saludos, Rein
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 26 Oct 2011 08:56
por stamps9407
Rein
Yes, symmetrical Zárate paper! But you should be able to find the asymmetrical version as well!
If you mean it is present with both ZA1 and ZA2, I agree.
If your phrase has a different meaning I don't get it
Regards
Sergio
Re: P&R I 2 pesos Fruits
Publicado: 26 Oct 2011 09:12
por Rein
stamps9407 escribió:Rein
Yes, symmetrical Zárate paper! But you should be able to find the asymmetrical version as well!
If you mean it is present with both ZA1 and ZA2, I agree.
If your phrase has a different meaning I don't get it
Regards
Sergio
Sergio,
you may find the 2 pesos both on ZA 1 and on ZA 2!
saludos, Rein
P.S.
I do not think there is just ZA 1-4 ! It takes some study yet but there may be more and/or different types of Zárate paper!