Foro de Filatelia Argentina

In 1941 an English type of paper got introduced for Argentinean stamps - not only the definitives but also most of the Commemoratives of that period.

The paper wire we see comes from a weave that has vertical lines/threads and horizontal threads of various densities; the usual density is 28-30 vertical threads(warp) per horizontal centimeter AND some 20 horizontal threads (weft) per vertical centimeter! The gauges noted as follows - 28/20, 30/20, 24/20, etc...

The so-called Tela paper has a grid/wire gauge of 24/20; I will show you the original English stamps as well for comparison.

24/20 diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees





28/20, diagonal lines at 58 and -58 degrees





GOOGLE:

En 1941, un tipo de Inglés de papel se presentó para los sellos de Argentina - no sólo la definitives, sino también la mayoría de las monedas conmemorativas de ese período.

El hilo de papel que vemos proviene de un tejido que tiene líneas verticales / hilos y los hilos horizontales de diferentes densidades, la densidad normal es de 28-30 hilos verticales (urdimbre) por centímetro horizontal y alrededor de 20 hilos horizontales (trama) por centímetro vertical! Los calibradores señaló lo siguiente - 28/20, 30/20, 24/20, etc ..

El llamado documento de Tela tiene una rejilla / calibre de cable de 24/20, y te mostraré los sellos originales Inglés, así como para la comparación.

24/20 líneas diagonales a 50 y -50 grados

A question that occurred to me from time to time is how the Casa de Moneda did get her paper supplies.

English paper in 1941 (Tela); Italian paper in 1942 (Rayos rectos difusos) ???

Were there no blockades??? Freight-ships that had to transport tons of paper reels??? A North-American paper that was used in 1943 seems less problematic... But import from Europe during the war?

GOOGLE:

Una pregunta que se me ocurrió de vez en cuando es como la Casa de Moneda se recibe sus suministros de papel.

De papel de Inglés en 1941 (Tela), papel de Italia en 1942 (Rayos rectos difusos)???

Si no existiera el bloqueo??? Transporte de mercancías de los buques que tenían que transportar toneladas de bobinas de papel??? El papel de América del Norte-que se utilizó en 1943, parece menos problemático ... Sin embargo, las importaciones procedentes de Europa durante la guerra?

Rein escribió:Were there no blockades??? Freight-ships that had to transport tons of paper reels??? A North-American paper that was used in 1943 seems less problematic... But import from Europe during the war?

Up to March 27, 1945 (when Argentina declare war to Japan and Germany), Argentina was a neutra country, so commerce with both sides was, in theory, possible. My two cents!

1941 20.02 French y Berutti 24/20 „tela‘

1942 05.04 Postal Savingsbank 24/20 „tela‘
1942 13.07 J.M. Estrada 24/20 „tela‘

1943 03.07 Revolution 4 June 1943 various papers
1943 24.09 Tucuman Museum 24/20 „tela‘ and RR (1951)
1943 25.10 Savingsbank Conference 24/20 „tela‘ and RR.
1943 11.12 Export Day 24/20 „tela‘

1944 05.01 Pro Cartero 24/20 „tela‘
1944 31.01 Week of the Marine 24/20 „tela‘
1944 17.02 Earthquake ??paper??
1944 04.06 1st anniversary Revolution 24/20 „tela‘
1944 11.10 Eucharistical Congress 24/20 „tela‘
1944 24.10 Savings Day 24/20 „tela‘
1944 01.12 Reservists Day 24/20 „tela‘

The first commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

Ministerial escribió:

Rein escribió:Were there no blockades??? Freight-ships that had to transport tons of paper reels??? A North-American paper that was used in 1943 seems less problematic... But import from Europe during the war?

Up to March 27, 1945 (when Argentina declare war to Japan and Germany), Argentina was a neutra country, so commerce with both sides was, in theory, possible. My two cents!

I had not realised that! Thanks!

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1943 24.09 Tucuman museum:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 31.01 Week of the Marine:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 04.06 1st anniversary June Revolution:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 11.10 Eucharistical Congress:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 24.10 Savings Day:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1943 25.10 Savings Day:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1943 11.12 Export Day:

The next commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 05.01 Pro Cartero:

The last of the commemorative postage stamps with "Tela" 24/20 gauges; diagonal lines at 50 and -50 degrees - symmetrical paper wire - paralell watermark - direction of paper parallel to the long side of the stamp ("M"):

1944 01.12 Reservists Day: