P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
Of the Asymmetrical Orthogonal with vertical intersolar distance 35mm [Pietro Miliani Rayos Rectos Nitidos or 2C or RR2] and B25:
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Rein,
This is a very interesting finding. It looks that there is a symmetrical and an asymmetrical version.
This is a very interesting finding. It looks that there is a symmetrical and an asymmetrical version.
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
Of the Asymmetrical Orthogonal with vertical intersolar distance 35mm [Pietro Miliani Rayos Rectos Nitidos or 2C or RR2] and B17:
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Of the Asymmetrical Orthogonal with vertical intersolar distance 35mm [Pietro Miliani Rayos Rectos Nitidos or 2C or RR2] and B25:
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Of the symmetrical No Watermark [Zárate or NGR or SF1/2] and B17:
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Of the symmetrical No Watermark [Zárate or NGR or SF1/2] and B25:
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
I don't think anyone in Argentina had even thought this were to be possiblerubiera escribió:Rein,
This is a very interesting finding. It looks that there is a symmetrical and an asymmetrical version.
Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
Here is a selection from the 2D block I have shown here (1943):
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
Tony,
you can not always tell from a loose stamp (or even strip or block) the base!
As the stamp size has (normally) 17 teeth / 25 teeth I used to denote the perforations as:
17/25, 17/25- or 17/25+ (for the base 17) or 25/17, 25/17- and 25/17+ (for the base 25)
It is a phenomenon I met - for other countries but including Argentina! - some 40 years ago .... when I was comparing the perforations of the Dutch stamp printers and grouping them into "families" - some of these Dutch families are quite large.
There is a B14 for Switzerland, a B15 and a B18 for Luxemburg; the J1 is an enormous family just like the J2.
The Dutch printers have a good documentation of these perforation blocks they had made themselves upto now! I met the guy who is still responsible for the blocks and cylinders and he is constantly working with needles and pins!
see : http://galeoptix.nl/fila/jezabroa.htm
to be continued ....
you can not always tell from a loose stamp (or even strip or block) the base!
As the stamp size has (normally) 17 teeth / 25 teeth I used to denote the perforations as:
17/25, 17/25- or 17/25+ (for the base 17) or 25/17, 25/17- and 25/17+ (for the base 25)
It is a phenomenon I met - for other countries but including Argentina! - some 40 years ago .... when I was comparing the perforations of the Dutch stamp printers and grouping them into "families" - some of these Dutch families are quite large.
There is a B14 for Switzerland, a B15 and a B18 for Luxemburg; the J1 is an enormous family just like the J2.
The Dutch printers have a good documentation of these perforation blocks they had made themselves upto now! I met the guy who is still responsible for the blocks and cylinders and he is constantly working with needles and pins!
see : http://galeoptix.nl/fila/jezabroa.htm
to be continued ....
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
Of the Asymmetrical Parallel Watermark [Wiggins Teape Rayado Vertical or 1E3b or MI5] and B17:
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
The 20cLC1E3b and the 20cLC1L1 dated
Here is a comparison of the colors of these stamps.
20cLC1E3b dated 1942.
... in 1943.
... in 1945.
All 20cLC1L1s I find used in 1951.
The late printings on the 1L1 paper are smudged.
Here is a comparison of the colors of these stamps.
20cLC1E3b dated 1942.
... in 1943.
... in 1945.
All 20cLC1L1s I find used in 1951.
The late printings on the 1L1 paper are smudged.
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
The 20cLC1E3b and the 20cLC1L1 papers
Here is the 1E3b. It has a square grid.
Here are several 1L1s. The 1L1 has a rectangular symmetrical thread scheme same as the 1E1 of 1936 and the 1E3a of 1939.
Here is the 1E3b. It has a square grid.
Here are several 1L1s. The 1L1 has a rectangular symmetrical thread scheme same as the 1E1 of 1936 and the 1E3a of 1939.
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Re: P&R I 20c Large Format Cattle
20cLC plate variety: slit near 20
I have shown this plate variety before.
20cLC with repeated background out of place
I have seen this variety before but did not realize at the time that this is a stray repeated background out of place in reference to the regular background. I do not know what could have caused this variety.
20cLC with deformed right leg of last A of GANADERIA
I have shown this plate variety before.
I have shown this plate variety before.
20cLC with repeated background out of place
I have seen this variety before but did not realize at the time that this is a stray repeated background out of place in reference to the regular background. I do not know what could have caused this variety.
20cLC with deformed right leg of last A of GANADERIA
I have shown this plate variety before.
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20cLC with deformed left leg of last A of GANADERIA
I have not seen this variety before.
20cLC with deformed bottom outer line
I have seen this variety before but did not find additional examples of it until now. Both stamps are 1L1.
I have not seen this variety before.
20cLC with deformed bottom outer line
I have seen this variety before but did not find additional examples of it until now. Both stamps are 1L1.
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20cLC dot on oval plate variety
This is a common plate variety. I have shown it before. This first stamp has a displaced background.
This late printing has a smeared right side value pocket.
Here are additional stamps with this plate variety.
This is a common plate variety. I have shown it before. This first stamp has a displaced background.
This late printing has a smeared right side value pocket.
Here are additional stamps with this plate variety.
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