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Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 05 Ene 2014 20:54
por Rein
The gum breaking pattern of German and Austria stamps are well-known?! But is this true??


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Looks familiar!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 05 Ene 2014 20:56
por Rein
The 1948 Folklore dresses of Austria:

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Quite like the Germans stamps!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 05 Ene 2014 20:58
por Rein
But in Austria in the 1955-1957 period also another type of gum breaking had been used that wasn't mentioned in the Michel Special Catalogue nor in the Austrian Netto Katalog!

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You can even see it at the front!!!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 05 Ene 2014 20:58
por Rein
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Nothing special it seems!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 05 Ene 2014 21:00
por Rein
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But this is something the German collectors do not know! Argentina collectors know better!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 11 Ene 2014 21:38
por Otin
Rein,
This topic is most interesting! Do the German written catalogs ignore the existence of these different types of gum breakers or just mention when they show gofrado gum? Saludos,
José

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 11 Ene 2014 21:38
por Otin
Rein,
This topic is most interesting! Do the German written catalogs ignore the existence of these different types of gum breakers or just mention when they show gofrado gum? Saludos,
José

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 12 Ene 2014 11:02
por Rein
José,

the German speaking catalogues do mention the wave like gum breaking patterns but ignore the one with the sharp indents! The last examples of the German stamps were primarily meant to fool the German experts in thinking it had something to do with gum breaking..

You and I know this in the context of "granulado" and know it is very common in the PyR II series! On the other hand I started to doubt whether these indents if coming from the wire could have been so sharp!?

What do you think???

saludos, Rein

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 21 Ene 2014 20:58
por Otin
Rein,
For me the indents are provoked by protuberances of the warf of wire cloth. I say this 'cause when a production run is started generally they clean the mesh and wires are prominent. As long as the wire cloth is running the gap betwenn wire start collecting microfibers thus making them fullfilled with same. This "flattens" the mesh surface and indents are less deep, thus making paper show less rugosity. That´s my opinion. Saludos,
José

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 22 Ene 2014 07:55
por Rein
Otin escribió:Rein,
For me the indents are provoked by protuberances of the warf of wire cloth. I say this 'cause when a production run is started generally they clean the mesh and wires are prominent. As long as the wire cloth is running the gap betwenn wire start collecting microfibers thus making them fullfilled with same. This "flattens" the mesh surface and indents are less deep, thus making paper show less rugosity. That´s my opinion. Saludos,
José
José,

sounds plausible and does also explain the relative scarceness of the stamps with sharp indent.

saludos, Rein

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 22 Ene 2014 19:04
por Rein
Another lesser known fact is about the stamp paper produced by Harrison and Sons, UK.

Parallel to the direction of paper, very thin lines seem to have been "carved" in to the surface!

It is quite remarkable in Belgian definitives that had many paper providers.

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as before but now the carvings indicated!

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 22 Ene 2014 19:51
por Otin
Rein,
If you look !c Sarnmiento and 5c Moreno on tizado paper by looking at them flat t the hight of your eyes, you´ll see "valleys" paralell to long side of the stamp-
José
PS. On Dutch paper from Loeber.

Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 13 Feb 2014 11:50
por Rein
The "askew" gum breaking pattern has also been used for the Austrian Commemoratives!

For the first time for the 1955 Opera stamps:

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At the left the orthogonal wavy lines pattern:

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At the right the "askew" pattern:

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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 13 Feb 2014 11:54
por Rein
And then the 1955 United Nations stamps:

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all with the "askew" pattern:


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Re: Gumbreaking patterns are well-known aren't they?

Publicado: 13 Feb 2014 11:56
por Rein
1956 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart:

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all with the "askew" pattern.

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