2p40 Ameghino - 2 different watermarks

[Rein]

As I have recently shown in the commemoratives of the period there are a lot of stamps that have 2 watermarks ....

It is not different with the definitives of that same period.

Orthogonal watermark, symmetrical paper wire, direction of paper vertical:




Orthogonal watermark, symmetrical paper wire, direction of paper horizontal:





All having the so-called "filigrana traspuesta"!

[stamps9407]

Hello Rein,

I am not able to distinguish the the first stamp's watermark (I have the same problem with your previous posts), is there a way to highlight it?

Thanks

Sergio

[Rein]

Sergio!

Have a look again!

[stamps9407]

What about the RA? how is it oriented?
Thanks

[Rein]

Sergio,

the fact hat the "granulado" is directed differently should really do!

[stamps9407]

Hello Rein,
Sorry I didn't understand the last phrase. Any way What I am asking is, in the scan you marked with the red circles I can't distinguish the RA, as you red marked the sun can you highlight the RA?
Thanks
Sergio

[stamps9407]

Hello Rein,
Sorry I didn't understand the last phrase. Any way What I am asking is, in the scan you marked with the red circles I can't distinguish the RA, as you red marked the sun, would you highlight the RA please?
Thanks
Sergio

[Rein]

Sergio,

I hoped that you would get the general idea that is the granulado is visible = either | or - in a normal upright position of the stamp = and the positions of the Sun - in this example the RA is not so clear as with the other stamps... I can find some other copies and scan them and see whether the result is better?

[Rein]

Sergio!

On the same type of paper also the 4p40 Sáenz Peña was printed!



I will look for some beter scanneable copies

[Rein]

It seems to me that the orthogonal watermark with line of RA parallel to the long side of the stamp is quite scarce! I have found only 2 copies so far.....

[stamps9407]

Rein
I really appreciate your help, you are very patient. I am trying to understand this watermark concept but I think you are assuming I understand things I don't, I am asking you a very very basic question, is this watermark as in A, B, C or D?

Thanks

Sergio

[Rein]

Sergio,

As in "A" !

[stamps9407]

Thank you!!!

[Plaphil]

Concuerdo con Rein. He revisado todos los sellos de mi stock y la filigrana RA en el sentido del eje mayor es por demás escasa. Haciendo una similitud con la clasificación de PyR I, la posición sería M y el sello es el siguiente:



El granulado del papel se observa claramente



El sello con filigrana en posición m, el más abundante, existe con filigrana normal e invertida, graficado con las famosas flechitas



Visto de frente



Filigrana invertida