rubiera escribió:The key point here is that these stamps mint were not sold to collectors. Someone had to steal them....right? Or maybe the post office sold the remainders to dealers? In my opinion, the ones that served postal use are guaranteed to have been 'real stamps.' The regulars are another story. A mint 20p regular 1E1 (Ingles, 1936) cost someone a very dear 20 pesos in 1936, and that was serious money back then. And the regulars were sold to collectors but at full face value, not by the pound.
I think this might be an interesting topic, if you want to start a debate about this, we might perhaps open a thread on the official sub-forum. But the point is, that most collectors, and the market, do not agree with this approach. Most collectors, right or wrong, don't care about this. And the catalogs are, at least in this case, correct in reflecting the prices accordingly.
So I think that whenever you talk about rarity of these stamps, you should explicitely say if you are talking about the rarity in
used cancelled condition. Otherwise you will probably confuse most readers.
Btw, I would suspect that most mint 20p regulars (not officials) copies available now, were
not bought formally at the post. Probably most of them have a similar origin as the official ones.
Rein escribió:why be careful about it??? The catalogue makers have the monopoly of setting prices and with hardly any market, the prices remain at that level...
What is the value of a catalogue price??? I prefer to see higher prices so people jump out to sell their copies only to find out that there are enough of them on this small market!?
Hmm, you must be the first collector I found that would like catalog prices to be higher!
For most people, the problem is usually that they can find the stamps, but they can't afford them. Not the opposite. Catalog prices, at least here, have a very strong influence in the market. Most sellers would automatically, and immediately, increase their prices when a new catalog comes out with higher prices.
The claim that higher prices would bring more copies to the market, is IMHO, a fallacy (a fallacy mentioned by catalog makers many times, strange that you agree with them
So some stamps are valued at, say, 0.50. Do you think that those people that don't want to sell them, will suddenly jump to the market if they are now valued, at say, 2.00 ? Of course not, at least not in most cases. Now, if a stamp is valued at, say, 2.00, and you change it to say, $100.00, then yes, you will probably see more sellers. But of course, you probably won't find any buyers at that price, and nobody will be happy (would you?
).
Regardless, low catalog prices influence more the dealer buying, than the dealer selling! If a stamp is grossly underpriced in the catalog, and you go to buy it from a dealer. The dealer will charge you a much higher price. It will tell you, that it is a mistake in the catalog. And you would probably have to agree with him.
I prefer to have as little fakes as possible in my collection...Answering my question?! Have you come across the type of fakes I was displaying???
Of course that fakes should not me mixed with genuine stamps. But being a collector specialized in the topic, I collect forgeries as well (obviously, separated from the genuine ones).
I don't remember if I have seen
exactly the same forgeries (exactly same overprint, and on same base stamp) you show. But I have seen forgeries very similar to them, possibly from the same origin. Contrary to the older (baston) overprints, forgeries of the serif/perfiladas overprints are not very common.