1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York

[Rein]

The defintives depicting the famous statesmen in the 1867-1887 period having been printed in New York by two different printing works - the National Banknote Company and the American Banknote Company are still subject of discussion in this Foro.

One thing that keeps being avoided is the fact that the direction of paper - eje de enrollamiento - is most important and responsbile for most measured changes in height [or width]. A lot of stamps of that series has a horizontal direction of paper and hence the horizontal fibres getting thicker or thinner due to moisture resulting in differences in height......

Another aspect that is rather neglected are the so-called types of several values - minor scratches that occur or not - that rightly get mentioned in the catalogues - Kneitschel, Klass, Jalil etc, but accompanied by illustrations that are not worth the name!

See the 2c Lopez and the 5c and 8c Rivadavia!

[Rein]

The 5c Rivadavia has some characteristics we will find in the 8c Rivadavia as well.




the left upper corner has a double line - referred to as "raya dobla" for the 8c type I!

[Rein]

Thanks to Martin della Casa we have at least a better picture of the 5c types I and II:

Haciendo historia, cuando todavia estaban en circulación los Rivadavias, Posadas propone que se mantenga la viñeta de Rivadavia para el valor de 5c, y se realizara el de 10c con Manuel Belgrano y el de 15c con la del Gral San Martin, aconsejando se encargase otro sello de 5c, con las armas de la Republica para la correspondencia oficial y uno de 1c para el franqueo de diarios, pero... los últimos dos se descartaron por feos! . (cuales eran las pruebas de estos???)

Este sello de 5c se puso en circulación el 1 de septiembre de 1867, en este tipo el cuello del levitón forma una curva y el fondo del círculo es de lineas horizontales



Pt. 18a - V.k. 35


A partir de Septiembre de 1867, se emiten con el medallón modificado, el fondo de lineas cruzadas y el cuello del levitón recto.




Pt. 18 - V.k. 36
No me pregunten porque Petrovich los cataloga invertidos, imagino que agregó el lineas horizontales una vez que tenia catalogado el lineas cruzadas... es asi?

Les debo algunos matasellos que esta noche escaneo.

Martin

PD: con robos del libro "Sellos y otros Valores Postales y Telegraficos Argentinos" de Antonio Deluca. Tomo 1.

Type I with rounded shoulder and horizontal lines without diagonals, type II with straight shoulder and diagonal lines crossing the horizontal...

[Rein]

The two types of the 5c Rivadavia have the double lines - both of them! - and so has the first type of the 8c Rivadavia!

[Rein]

The second type of the 8c Rivadavia does NOT have a single line!





The second line is still there or rather it has got longer pointing to the left upper corner! The frame line seems to get broken at the same time...

[Rein]

The second line gets more and more fainter and the frame line getting broken even more clearly...

[Rein]

and also the double line at the right corner get fainter!

[Rein]

The direction of paper is horizontal in most cases!



The only copy I have found with a vertical direction of paper:

[Rein]

The catalogues - here Klass - display a sketch that is remarkably good for the 8c - the break in the frame line is visible!

[Rein]

Following my study into the guiding dots I did see some remarkable 24c stamps though:

[Rein]

The National, Continental and American Bank Note Companies ultimately merged under the name of the American Bank Note Company which assumed the contract for printing stamps in 1879. http://values.hobbizine.com/stamps/us-1879-90.html

Does that mean the printing works continued under ONE name - American Banknote Company OR did the NBNC and the CBNC stop altogether???