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1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 10 Sep 2010 11:09
por Rein
The defintives depicting the famous statesmen in the 1867-1887 period having been printed in New York by two different printing works - the National Banknote Company and the American Banknote Company are still subject of discussion in this Foro.
One thing that keeps being avoided is the fact that the direction of paper - eje de enrollamiento - is most important and responsbile for most measured changes in height [or width]. A lot of stamps of that series has a horizontal direction of paper and hence the horizontal fibres getting thicker or thinner due to moisture resulting in differences in height......
Another aspect that is rather neglected are the so-called types of several values - minor scratches that occur or not - that rightly get mentioned in the catalogues - Kneitschel, Klass, Jalil etc, but accompanied by illustrations that are not worth the name!
See the 2c Lopez and the 5c and 8c Rivadavia!
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 10 Sep 2010 13:15
por Rein
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 10 Sep 2010 18:06
por Rein
Thanks to Martin della Casa we have at least a better picture of the 5c types I and II:
ntrm » 15 Apr 2009 14:43 escribió:
Haciendo historia, cuando todavia estaban en circulación los Rivadavias, Posadas propone que se mantenga la viñeta de Rivadavia para el valor de 5c, y se realizara el de 10c con Manuel Belgrano y el de 15c con la del Gral San Martin, aconsejando se encargase otro sello de 5c, con las armas de la Republica para la correspondencia oficial y uno de 1c para el franqueo de diarios, pero... los últimos dos se descartaron por feos! . (cuales eran las pruebas de estos???)
Este sello de 5c se puso en circulación el 1 de septiembre de 1867, en este tipo el cuello del levitón forma una curva y el fondo del círculo es de lineas horizontales
Pt. 18a - V.k. 35
A partir de Septiembre de 1867, se emiten con el medallón modificado, el fondo de lineas cruzadas y el cuello del levitón recto.
Pt. 18 - V.k. 36
No me pregunten porque Petrovich los cataloga invertidos, imagino que agregó el lineas horizontales una vez que tenia catalogado el lineas cruzadas... es asi?
Les debo algunos matasellos que esta noche escaneo.
Martin
PD: con robos del libro "Sellos y otros Valores Postales y Telegraficos Argentinos" de Antonio Deluca. Tomo 1.
Type I with rounded shoulder and horizontal lines without diagonals, type II with straight shoulder and diagonal lines crossing the horizontal...
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 11 Sep 2010 06:34
por Rein
The two types of the 5c Rivadavia have the double lines - both of them! - and so has the first type of the 8c Rivadavia!
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 11 Sep 2010 06:38
por Rein
The second type of the 8c Rivadavia does NOT have a single line!
The second line is still there or rather it has got longer pointing to the left upper corner! The frame line seems to get broken at the same time...
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 11 Sep 2010 06:41
por Rein
The second line gets more and more fainter and the frame line getting broken even more clearly...
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 11 Sep 2010 06:42
por Rein
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 11 Sep 2010 06:50
por Rein
The direction of paper is horizontal in most cases!
The only copy I have found with a vertical direction of paper:
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 12 Sep 2010 08:32
por Rein
The catalogues - here Klass - display a sketch that is remarkably good for the 8c - the break in the frame line is visible!
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 13 Sep 2010 11:56
por Rein
Re: 1867-1887 Proceres printed in New York
Publicado: 13 Sep 2010 12:13
por Rein
Does that mean the printing works continued under ONE name - American Banknote Company OR did the NBNC and the CBNC stop altogether???
